
This time last year, Causers of This reached the greater consciousness of indie music. The debut album of Toro y Moi (brainchild of South Carolina resident Chaz Bundick) is a seamless blend of IDM and dream-pop and was partly responsible for turning chillwave from a satirical music-nerd in-joke into a bona fide genre.
Released last month, Bundick's follow-up Underneath the Pine finds the project going in a different direction, channeling disco, funk, and psych-pop. We recently talked to Bundick about the new album and branching out into remix work and possibly soundtracking movies in the future.
City Arts: Causers of This had a synthetic sheen to it -- I guess you can call it “chillwave,” though it sounds a little different from that movement -- while Underneath the Pine is built on really lush live instrumentation. Have you thought about what you‘d like to do next as far as recording goes?
Chaz Bundick: Not yet. I’m just trying to make the music sound right for the shows. I might work on some things on tour.
Where was your headspace when writing these songs? What were you feeling?
I usually think the same thing when I’m making song, but during this one, I was experiencing a lot of really big tours. Lyrically, I was thinking about being away from home, but musically, I was taking in a lot of psychedelic and funk music.
I mentioned the chillwave thing, and people tend to lump you in with that genre, but your demos from 2009 had a vast instrumental range, and I was wondering if you had referenced them at all while recording the new album.
A little bit. It was nice to go back and listen to a few of them, but I mostly wanted to try something challenging that I had never done before
You recently talked about how Underneath the Pine was inspired by composers like David Axelrod. If you could score or soundtrack any existing movie right now, what would you choose?
I just saw the Justin Bieber movie. I could probably do that one. Either that or Tron. I think Tron would be fun.
Do you see yourself one day providing a score or soundtrack to an original movie? Would that be something you would be interested in?
It would be. I think that seems to be the next step for a lot of musicians nowadays, to go into that realm.
For Underneath the Pine, did you record all of the instruments by yourself, did you record demos and teach your band the parts, or did they come in and help you flesh out song ideas?
I recorded everything myself, and we ended up writing all the parts later.
Aside from the album, you recently did a remix for Tyler, the Creator. Was that something where you said, “This song is really cool, I’m doing to do a remix”?
I was sent an e-mail being asked to do it, and since I was a fan, I immediately said yes. It was really fun; it was cool to see all of the different responses. A lot of people enjoyed it.
How do you feel about the brand of rap that they do? There seems to be a lot of really explicit themes in their music. Do you normally get down with stuff like that?
It doesn’t bother me. I like it a lot. I like the rhythm; usually I pay more attention to the rhythm of the words rather than the lyrics. I also really like the production, the chords that he [Tyler] uses, and the different sounds. It’s more experimental than most rap.
Would you be interested in making beats for other rappers? What other rappers would you like to make beats for?
I really like Drake, so working with either him or Kanye would be really cool.
What about singers or other bands? Would you be interested in working with more melody-driven artists?
Possibly It depends on who the bands are and what the music sounds like, but yeah. That’s definitely a goal, to do something like that.
What are your favorite current bands right now?
I like Soulja Boy. I just saw the Justin Bieber movie, and I think I like him now. That movie makes you really like Justin Bieber. Lil’ B, he’s cool, too.
You toured with Caribou last year. Were you given any really good advice that you still keep close to you?
Now that we’re in a position of headlining of our own tours, we just have a better idea of how to go about things, like making sure the supporting bands are alright and if they needing anything. And just generally being more responsible.
Do you like touring?
I used to not like it, but now that we actually are satisfied with how stuff’s done and how the crowd reactions are, it’s pretty nice. It’s a lot different from when we were first touring. It’s still as hard, but back then, there were not a lot of people at shows. Things are definitely better now.
Do you prefer recording to touring, or is touring the most fun for you now?
I don’t hate touring anymore, but recording ends up being the most fun, for sure.
Toro y Moi will be playing at the Crocodile on Sunday, March 27th with Cloud Nothings and Braids. $10, 21+.